I would just like to point out that Magnus and Alec get back together on page 666…
Even Satan approves of Malec getting back together
Tag: cohf
I’m sad Malec doesn’t get that happy ending that Sizzy gets, but I can accept it easier than I could for Sizzy. Magnus was always immortal. He knew from birth that unless he loves an immortal, he will outlive his love. Malec always had that imbalance of mortality. Sizzy, however, did not. Yes, they got together after Simon became immortal, but they met when Simon was human. Simon had mortality and it was stripped away from him and I was glad to see him get it back.
ooh, no don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Simon is human, even though I liked him as a vampire more. But even though Magnus has always known, has always lived knowning he would outlive them all, it doesn;t make it easier for him. I think it makes it harder. Magnus is over 300 years old and he has finally found the one. I think that he deserves to die with that person by his side. Yes, Sizzy met as both mortal, but their relationship itself was just as imbalanced as malec’s one. So I don’t see that as a reason myself, but if you do that is okay. But I don’t think Magnus should be punished for not having been mortal to begin with, he can not change that.
I guess the problem with this ending also lays in the fact that Magnus himself has said he was looking for a cure, that he wanted to be mortal with Alec. He said he was tired of being immortal. So for that to not change is a bitter pill to swallow, if you are a Magnus fan. Or to suddenly be completely erase even (Which happened in cohf)
They both deserve to die happily of old age, but it was sadly only granted one of them and only granted one couple. And most readers forget that, or approve it. I just have a hard time understanding why. And the thing I slightly dislike as well is that the LGBT characters of the book get stuck with the crappy ending, which sadly has been the norm in Hollywood etc. So I was hoping Cassandra Clare would not go down that road.Except for the fact that Magnus chose not to become mortal. He knew of a way to become mortal and chose not to do it. He knew that choice meant he would eventually, one day, watch the one he loves die. He accepted that.
If he had not made that clear in the end then I could probably agree with you. But he did. My cousin borrowed my copy or I’d quote something.
He did say he, but you never get to know why, why did magnus suddenly turn 180 on his opinion. I don’t understand and it seems to me, like cassandra wanted an easy fix, let’s pretend the last books didn’t happen and he never wanted to get ride of it in the first place. I would have understood if he wasn’t that keen to do it right away. He and Alec first need to know they can be together for life and not break up again after a fight.Since they still have massive issue that need to be discussed, even though it doesn’t seem that way in the book. But none of it was explained or anything. So that leaves a very confused and unsatified feeling behind.
Plus hinting heavingly at something and than go 180 on it as a writer is never going to go down well. At least not with me. The couple deserved more than what they got in cohf, a better happy ending and maybe more time for the readers to understand what went through their minds when they came to all these conclusions.I have a very simple explanation as to why he would pull a 180, though I don’t recall Magnus ever saying that he would 100% become mortal. My explanation, of course, is not an official one.
Fear.
Magnus has always been immortal, it’s the only thing he’s ever known. He has watched mortals he loves die in various ways. I can imagine that he entertained the thought of living out his life with Alec but when it came down to it…he was afraid. There’s nothing shameful about that.
I could also see Magnus deciding that he had more of a purpose than to just become mortal and die. We don’t know what Clare plans. She may have something else for Magnus and Alec to do. Magnus may become mortal yet. We just don’t know.
you are absolutely right. I was discussing this with someone else today and Magnus giving up his immortality is a huge sacrifice. And ALec and Magnus’s relationship is just getting started. They still need to strengthen their bond. And there are many scenario’s that would make it a very hard choice to make. ALec could die the day after Magnus sacrifice, Magnus could die. They could break up.
It’s such a big decision. and I feel that is even an understatement.
It will take time and absolute certainty for Magnus to make this choice and that certainty was not there by the end of CoHF.
But like you said I hope Clare still has plans for them. Even if it’s just an epilogue or something like that. Their story isn’t finished yet, at least it doesn’t feel finsihed. So maybe we still have a story left.Okay i’ve read a lot of fanfics with the idea of Magnus afraid of being mortal, or death. But in fact he is not. Here is the actual quote from CoHF “He had been close to death many times; so many that the idea no longer frightened him”. He’s even willing to die at the spot so Alec can go back to the human world. That’s like the biggest sacrifice someone can make for the one they love. Compared to it, giving up immortality doesn’t seem that big …
And i don’t think he is afraid of getting old either. Because growing old with someone is something he has never done before and Magnus is not the one who afraid of new experiences.I don’t think death scares him (Like you said the quote says it all), but it is still a huge sacrife. If he becomes mortal so he can experience growing old with some, then Alec dying young, would ruin that. He would be growing old alone. That was more what I was talking about and agreeing with. He doesn’t fear it itself but finding the right time and being sure Alec is the right person that will take time to be figured out. If I were magnus I would wait until all of that is clear as day. That way there is not to regret afterwards.
I’m not entirely sure what you means by “the right time”? When Alec is older?? Because if so, he can just wait until Alec die & then kill himself, much more easier than become mortal right? There is no way to know for sure when Alec is going to die, I prefer thinking Magnus will make sure that Alec will live long, rather than sitting around waiting for it.
He will never let Alec go to dangerous missions without him. Even if Alec doesn’t let him (Shadowhunter’s pride or sth like that). They live together now, so he will know when Alec is going out, he can secretly follow and make sure Alec is safe. He will ask Alec to draw the Alliance rune everytime so Alec can use his power whenever he needs.
And if taking immortality away also taking away his magic, then Magnus will be like Simon, he can also become Shadowhunter! (Wow, this theory is getting wild). And if there really is a battle where Alec is in danger, Magnus will die first trying to protect him.
I’m not going to comment on “being sure Alec is the right person” because in my head Alec already is the right person for Magnus & Magnus knows it
So for me the whole “Magnus don’t want to get rid of immortality YET” idea, is … not really convincing. (Hope you don’t get mad or get the wrong idea, i simply just want to discuss things >_<)
I’m sad Malec doesn’t get that happy ending that Sizzy gets, but I can accept it easier than I could for Sizzy. Magnus was always immortal. He knew from birth that unless he loves an immortal, he will outlive his love. Malec always had that imbalance of mortality. Sizzy, however, did not. Yes, they got together after Simon became immortal, but they met when Simon was human. Simon had mortality and it was stripped away from him and I was glad to see him get it back.
ooh, no don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Simon is human, even though I liked him as a vampire more. But even though Magnus has always known, has always lived knowning he would outlive them all, it doesn;t make it easier for him. I think it makes it harder. Magnus is over 300 years old and he has finally found the one. I think that he deserves to die with that person by his side. Yes, Sizzy met as both mortal, but their relationship itself was just as imbalanced as malec’s one. So I don’t see that as a reason myself, but if you do that is okay. But I don’t think Magnus should be punished for not having been mortal to begin with, he can not change that.
I guess the problem with this ending also lays in the fact that Magnus himself has said he was looking for a cure, that he wanted to be mortal with Alec. He said he was tired of being immortal. So for that to not change is a bitter pill to swallow, if you are a Magnus fan. Or to suddenly be completely erase even (Which happened in cohf)
They both deserve to die happily of old age, but it was sadly only granted one of them and only granted one couple. And most readers forget that, or approve it. I just have a hard time understanding why. And the thing I slightly dislike as well is that the LGBT characters of the book get stuck with the crappy ending, which sadly has been the norm in Hollywood etc. So I was hoping Cassandra Clare would not go down that road.Except for the fact that Magnus chose not to become mortal. He knew of a way to become mortal and chose not to do it. He knew that choice meant he would eventually, one day, watch the one he loves die. He accepted that.
If he had not made that clear in the end then I could probably agree with you. But he did. My cousin borrowed my copy or I’d quote something.
He did say he, but you never get to know why, why did magnus suddenly turn 180 on his opinion. I don’t understand and it seems to me, like cassandra wanted an easy fix, let’s pretend the last books didn’t happen and he never wanted to get ride of it in the first place. I would have understood if he wasn’t that keen to do it right away. He and Alec first need to know they can be together for life and not break up again after a fight.Since they still have massive issue that need to be discussed, even though it doesn’t seem that way in the book. But none of it was explained or anything. So that leaves a very confused and unsatified feeling behind.
Plus hinting heavingly at something and than go 180 on it as a writer is never going to go down well. At least not with me. The couple deserved more than what they got in cohf, a better happy ending and maybe more time for the readers to understand what went through their minds when they came to all these conclusions.I have a very simple explanation as to why he would pull a 180, though I don’t recall Magnus ever saying that he would 100% become mortal. My explanation, of course, is not an official one.
Fear.
Magnus has always been immortal, it’s the only thing he’s ever known. He has watched mortals he loves die in various ways. I can imagine that he entertained the thought of living out his life with Alec but when it came down to it…he was afraid. There’s nothing shameful about that.
I could also see Magnus deciding that he had more of a purpose than to just become mortal and die. We don’t know what Clare plans. She may have something else for Magnus and Alec to do. Magnus may become mortal yet. We just don’t know.
you are absolutely right. I was discussing this with someone else today and Magnus giving up his immortality is a huge sacrifice. And ALec and Magnus’s relationship is just getting started. They still need to strengthen their bond. And there are many scenario’s that would make it a very hard choice to make. ALec could die the day after Magnus sacrifice, Magnus could die. They could break up.
It’s such a big decision. and I feel that is even an understatement.
It will take time and absolute certainty for Magnus to make this choice and that certainty was not there by the end of CoHF.
But like you said I hope Clare still has plans for them. Even if it’s just an epilogue or something like that. Their story isn’t finished yet, at least it doesn’t feel finsihed. So maybe we still have a story left.
Okay i’ve read a lot of fanfics with the idea of Magnus afraid of being mortal, or death. But in fact he is not. Here is the actual quote from CoHF “He had been close to death many times; so many that the idea no longer frightened him”. He’s even willing to die at the spot so Alec can go back to the human world. That’s like the biggest sacrifice someone can make for the one they love. Compared to it, giving up immortality doesn’t seem that big …
And i don’t think he is afraid of getting old either. Because growing old with someone is something he has never done before and Magnus is not the one who afraid of new experiences.
I’m sad Malec doesn’t get that happy ending that Sizzy gets, but I can accept it easier than I could for Sizzy. Magnus was always immortal. He knew from birth that unless he loves an immortal, he will outlive his love. Malec always had that imbalance of mortality. Sizzy, however, did not. Yes, they got together after Simon became immortal, but they met when Simon was human. Simon had mortality and it was stripped away from him and I was glad to see him get it back.
ooh, no don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Simon is human, even though I liked him as a vampire more. But even though Magnus has always known, has always lived knowning he would outlive them all, it doesn;t make it easier for him. I think it makes it harder. Magnus is over 300 years old and he has finally found the one. I think that he deserves to die with that person by his side. Yes, Sizzy met as both mortal, but their relationship itself was just as imbalanced as malec’s one. So I don’t see that as a reason myself, but if you do that is okay. But I don’t think Magnus should be punished for not having been mortal to begin with, he can not change that.
I guess the problem with this ending also lays in the fact that Magnus himself has said he was looking for a cure, that he wanted to be mortal with Alec. He said he was tired of being immortal. So for that to not change is a bitter pill to swallow, if you are a Magnus fan. Or to suddenly be completely erase even (Which happened in cohf)
They both deserve to die happily of old age, but it was sadly only granted one of them and only granted one couple. And most readers forget that, or approve it. I just have a hard time understanding why. And the thing I slightly dislike as well is that the LGBT characters of the book get stuck with the crappy ending, which sadly has been the norm in Hollywood etc. So I was hoping Cassandra Clare would not go down that road.Except for the fact that Magnus chose not to become mortal. He knew of a way to become mortal and chose not to do it. He knew that choice meant he would eventually, one day, watch the one he loves die. He accepted that.
If he had not made that clear in the end then I could probably agree with you. But he did. My cousin borrowed my copy or I’d quote something.
He did say he, but you never get to know why, why did magnus suddenly turn 180 on his opinion. I don’t understand and it seems to me, like cassandra wanted an easy fix, let’s pretend the last books didn’t happen and he never wanted to get ride of it in the first place. I would have understood if he wasn’t that keen to do it right away. He and Alec first need to know they can be together for life and not break up again after a fight.Since they still have massive issue that need to be discussed, even though it doesn’t seem that way in the book. But none of it was explained or anything. So that leaves a very confused and unsatified feeling behind.
Plus hinting heavingly at something and than go 180 on it as a writer is never going to go down well. At least not with me. The couple deserved more than what they got in cohf, a better happy ending and maybe more time for the readers to understand what went through their minds when they came to all these conclusions.Wait there IS a part where Magnus said he didn’t want to become mortal?????????
Sorry the only thing i remember was Magnus apologize to Alec because he can’t make himself mortal, like in “I can’t do it because there is no way to do it”
Maybe I have somehow skip that part, can somebody quote the actual thing in the book???????the exact quote is:
“I was thinking about it, you know” Magnus said. “That’s part of why I wanted the Book of White. Immortality can be a burden. You think of the days that strech out before you, when you have been everywhere, seen everything. The one thing, I hadn’t experience was growing old with someone – someone I love. I thought perhaps it would be you.”
This indicates that Magnus wants to be with Alec that way. So the ending of CoHF contradict this quote massively. Without as much of an explanation. Maybe for the moment Magnus still wasn’t sure, I would understand that. They have a lot of issues, but in the end Magnus wanted to grow old with Alec, so i wanted that ending, I still want that ending. They deserve it. Magnus deserves it.
No, no, this part i already knew. What I want is the quote where Magnus said he DIDN’T want to become mortal in CoHF???? Because I have no memory of it????
Luckily I have my Malec pages mark, otherwise it would have taken a while to find.
Magnus says on page 706 of the paperbook version from Mcelderry:
“And you forgive me, for not being able to make you immortal, or end my own immortality."
This can be read two ways, It’s impossible to become mortal in a safe way. But to me it sounds like Magnus himself isn’t willing yet. He has the book of white so he should be able to do.
Does this help?
That’s it? That’s the quote you guys were talking about?
For me it sounds like Magnus can’t do it, doesn’t know the way to do it, rather than don’t want to do it
Yeah, it can be read two ways but i don’t think we should assume Magnus know a way to become mortal & don’t want to do it.
In fact, where is the part he said he KNOWS a way???
(Tbh, i NEVER thought of it the other way because it makes little sense & condradicts with CoLS, so why do people think about that???)
I’m sad Malec doesn’t get that happy ending that Sizzy gets, but I can accept it easier than I could for Sizzy. Magnus was always immortal. He knew from birth that unless he loves an immortal, he will outlive his love. Malec always had that imbalance of mortality. Sizzy, however, did not. Yes, they got together after Simon became immortal, but they met when Simon was human. Simon had mortality and it was stripped away from him and I was glad to see him get it back.
ooh, no don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Simon is human, even though I liked him as a vampire more. But even though Magnus has always known, has always lived knowning he would outlive them all, it doesn;t make it easier for him. I think it makes it harder. Magnus is over 300 years old and he has finally found the one. I think that he deserves to die with that person by his side. Yes, Sizzy met as both mortal, but their relationship itself was just as imbalanced as malec’s one. So I don’t see that as a reason myself, but if you do that is okay. But I don’t think Magnus should be punished for not having been mortal to begin with, he can not change that.
I guess the problem with this ending also lays in the fact that Magnus himself has said he was looking for a cure, that he wanted to be mortal with Alec. He said he was tired of being immortal. So for that to not change is a bitter pill to swallow, if you are a Magnus fan. Or to suddenly be completely erase even (Which happened in cohf)
They both deserve to die happily of old age, but it was sadly only granted one of them and only granted one couple. And most readers forget that, or approve it. I just have a hard time understanding why. And the thing I slightly dislike as well is that the LGBT characters of the book get stuck with the crappy ending, which sadly has been the norm in Hollywood etc. So I was hoping Cassandra Clare would not go down that road.Except for the fact that Magnus chose not to become mortal. He knew of a way to become mortal and chose not to do it. He knew that choice meant he would eventually, one day, watch the one he loves die. He accepted that.
If he had not made that clear in the end then I could probably agree with you. But he did. My cousin borrowed my copy or I’d quote something.
He did say he, but you never get to know why, why did magnus suddenly turn 180 on his opinion. I don’t understand and it seems to me, like cassandra wanted an easy fix, let’s pretend the last books didn’t happen and he never wanted to get ride of it in the first place. I would have understood if he wasn’t that keen to do it right away. He and Alec first need to know they can be together for life and not break up again after a fight.Since they still have massive issue that need to be discussed, even though it doesn’t seem that way in the book. But none of it was explained or anything. So that leaves a very confused and unsatified feeling behind.
Plus hinting heavingly at something and than go 180 on it as a writer is never going to go down well. At least not with me. The couple deserved more than what they got in cohf, a better happy ending and maybe more time for the readers to understand what went through their minds when they came to all these conclusions.Wait there IS a part where Magnus said he didn’t want to become mortal?????????
Sorry the only thing i remember was Magnus apologize to Alec because he can’t make himself mortal, like in “I can’t do it because there is no way to do it”
Maybe I have somehow skip that part, can somebody quote the actual thing in the book???????the exact quote is:
“I was thinking about it, you know” Magnus said. “That’s part of why I wanted the Book of White. Immortality can be a burden. You think of the days that strech out before you, when you have been everywhere, seen everything. The one thing, I hadn’t experience was growing old with someone – someone I love. I thought perhaps it would be you.”
This indicates that Magnus wants to be with Alec that way. So the ending of CoHF contradict this quote massively. Without as much of an explanation. Maybe for the moment Magnus still wasn’t sure, I would understand that. They have a lot of issues, but in the end Magnus wanted to grow old with Alec, so i wanted that ending, I still want that ending. They deserve it. Magnus deserves it.
No, no, this part i already knew. What I want is the quote where Magnus said he DIDN’T want to become mortal in CoHF???? Because I have no memory of it????
I’m sad Malec doesn’t get that happy ending that Sizzy gets, but I can accept it easier than I could for Sizzy. Magnus was always immortal. He knew from birth that unless he loves an immortal, he will outlive his love. Malec always had that imbalance of mortality. Sizzy, however, did not. Yes, they got together after Simon became immortal, but they met when Simon was human. Simon had mortality and it was stripped away from him and I was glad to see him get it back.
ooh, no don’t get me wrong, I’m glad Simon is human, even though I liked him as a vampire more. But even though Magnus has always known, has always lived knowning he would outlive them all, it doesn;t make it easier for him. I think it makes it harder. Magnus is over 300 years old and he has finally found the one. I think that he deserves to die with that person by his side. Yes, Sizzy met as both mortal, but their relationship itself was just as imbalanced as malec’s one. So I don’t see that as a reason myself, but if you do that is okay. But I don’t think Magnus should be punished for not having been mortal to begin with, he can not change that.
I guess the problem with this ending also lays in the fact that Magnus himself has said he was looking for a cure, that he wanted to be mortal with Alec. He said he was tired of being immortal. So for that to not change is a bitter pill to swallow, if you are a Magnus fan. Or to suddenly be completely erase even (Which happened in cohf)
They both deserve to die happily of old age, but it was sadly only granted one of them and only granted one couple. And most readers forget that, or approve it. I just have a hard time understanding why. And the thing I slightly dislike as well is that the LGBT characters of the book get stuck with the crappy ending, which sadly has been the norm in Hollywood etc. So I was hoping Cassandra Clare would not go down that road.Except for the fact that Magnus chose not to become mortal. He knew of a way to become mortal and chose not to do it. He knew that choice meant he would eventually, one day, watch the one he loves die. He accepted that.
If he had not made that clear in the end then I could probably agree with you. But he did. My cousin borrowed my copy or I’d quote something.
He did say he, but you never get to know why, why did magnus suddenly turn 180 on his opinion. I don’t understand and it seems to me, like cassandra wanted an easy fix, let’s pretend the last books didn’t happen and he never wanted to get ride of it in the first place. I would have understood if he wasn’t that keen to do it right away. He and Alec first need to know they can be together for life and not break up again after a fight.Since they still have massive issue that need to be discussed, even though it doesn’t seem that way in the book. But none of it was explained or anything. So that leaves a very confused and unsatified feeling behind.
Plus hinting heavingly at something and than go 180 on it as a writer is never going to go down well. At least not with me. The couple deserved more than what they got in cohf, a better happy ending and maybe more time for the readers to understand what went through their minds when they came to all these conclusions.
Wait there IS a part where Magnus said he didn’t want to become mortal?????????
Sorry the only thing i remember was Magnus apologize to Alec because he can’t make himself mortal, like in “I can’t do it because there is no way to do it”
Maybe I have somehow skip that part, can somebody quote the actual thing in the book???????
My father, who art in Hell, unhallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in Edom as it is in Hell. Forgive not my sins, for in that fire of fires there shall be neither loving kindness, nor compassion, nor redemption. My father, who makes war in high places and low, come to me now; I call you as your son, and incur upon myself the responsibility of your summoning
Magnus Bane
city of heavenly fire: aka the book in which jem carstairs and alec lightwood finally sighed and said “the sweet and nice parabatai my ass” because they got so done with everybody’s bullshit and unleashed the sass monster that was inside them all along
~fucking malec~ COHF SPOILERS
cohf spoilers
BECAUSE I’VE BEEN SEEING WANK ABOUT MALEC AND I JUST NEED TO RANT ABOUT WHAT I THINK OKAY
i think people are angry with the fact that she left their ending open more than they hate the ending. As you said “to be honest, the perfect ending – as a shipper – would be for them to get past this and work through it without magic, and then maybe one day magnus finds a totally safe consequence-free way to be mortal and they can live out their days together and all that”, but we might never get to see that ending you was talking about. She left us wondering what would happen, and we might never know, so i think that’s what makes people angry. I’m pretty ok with the ending but I want more, I need more. I will be very happy if Cassie write an actual ending for them after this, but for now, i will still deny that this ending ever happened
COHF SPOILERS
i don’t really think that it’s an open ending though. they’re together and they will be until alec dies. just because magnus stays immortal doesn’t mean it’s not an “actual ending”. they’re together and they decided that they will just have to take what they have and live out their days together. they’ve worked past it and that’s already a happy ending. sizzy got an open ending, bat and maia got an open ending, but malec ended up together. just because eventually alec will die doesn’t invalidate the closure that was given to them.
I think people kinda hope that Cassie will do something different with Malec than what she did with Wessa. Yes, they’re together, but how can you be sure that they’re happy the entire time? Because immortality can lead to a lot of different problems
For example, this is something from TBC ‘Magnus had never been old, had never known how the world reacted to you when you were old, and had not been allowed to be really young for long either’. Imagine when Alec is 50 and Magnus still looks 19, they will still love each other i know, but it will be different. As Camille said ‘You will not grow old together. You will grow apart instead’
Other couples have problems too, but eventually those problems can be solved, or they break up. But Malec’s problem can’t be solved, it will always be there, they only have 2 choice, live with it or break up, and in my opinion, none of it can count as ‘happy’. Cassie didn’t solve their problem, she made them ‘live with it because there is no other opinion’
(Wessa is different though, because according to Cassie Tessa can make herself looks old for Will)mad-half-hour: Thank you, this exactly.
I’ve honestly been sort of baffled by people claiming the ending between Alec and Magnus is open-ended, because it’s actually about as closed as an ending can be in a novel, imo. They decide that they’re going to be together despite the fact that Magnus is going to lose Alec one day, and will live on past that. That’s a solid decision. When the book ends, they are absolutely, 100% together (unlike, as you pointed out, Simon and Izzy). That isn’t leaving the immortality issue “open” like I’ve seen people claim, or ignoring it. They haven’t “ignored” it at all. In fact, for the first time, they actually frankly and openly discussed it, and came to an agreement about it. They determined that, in spite of the fact that there is no way around it, they still love each other enough to stay together. That’s resolution. They’ve “dealt” with it as much as unavoidable immortality *can* be dealt with. They can’t make it disappear, because Magnus would die instantly, and they can’t make Alec immortal without both changing who he is and violating his person feelings on mortality. So they discuss the only options left available to them: stay together in spite of that and talk through their issues like adults in love, or break up because they can’t get past their issues. They picked the first option.
I can understand being disappointed with the ending. I can understand calling the ending unhappy, because, yeah, it is sort of bittersweet. Ymmv and all that jazz. Some people want ‘till death do us part and then we meet up again in the afterlife romance, and that’s their opinion to have. But it wasn’t by any means “open-ended”.
(Personally, I really, really liked their ending. I definitely wouldn’t have objected to Magnus becoming mortal —that was my ~ideal~ ending— but this was more than acceptable. They’ll spend Alec’s life together and then Magnus will live on, and through Alec he’s learned how to keep living without “calcifying”. Loving Alec has literally saved Magnus from disconnecting with the world. Even if he moves on, Magnus will never be able to forget that, because that’s exactly what Alec taught Magnus he couldn’t do. Jfc these men, ugh, let me love them)
I will say it again, people are not disappointed because of the ending itself. Yes Malec discussed the problem and come to an agreement about it, but the problem itself is not solved. I feel like Cassie can’t think of a way to end this happily without make it sappy, so she chose the easy way out. It’s like they are back to square one, without moving forward at all. Well, maybe with less arguing
In CoFA, Magnus said “There isn’t going to be a next time”. This sentence makes people hope you know. They hope that Cassie will do something about Magnus’ immortality, that Alec is really Magnus’ last love. But then Cassie do nothing, Magnus might live on, and how can we sure that he wont love someone else? Because immortality is a long time to spent alone. I don’t want Magnus to endure his immortality alone. I also dont wan’t him to love someone else. Even if he doesn’t love someone else like he loves Alec (and it’s kind of unfair to that next person). This ending makes Magnus’ words seems like an empty promise & lose its meaning.
Yes, Sizzy has an open ending too. But eventually they will be together even if Simon dont remember (you know, like in ‘The vow’?). But you can see their open ending lead to happiness. But with Malec, there are too many things that can happen (i will quote someone else here, she said Malec’s happiness & future is “unstable and uncertain“ ) which makes people feel like it isn’t finished yet
I don’t think it makes Magnus’ promise empty though. I know he said that when Alec mentioned falling in love next time, but I think, with how the conversation went, he meant it like he won’t love someone the way he loves Alec. (Kind of like how Tessa didn’t love Jem more than Will or the other way around, but rather, loved them differently) Magnus then said that he will never be ready to lose Alec. When Alec asked him what they should do, Magnus said they should just hope. While this means also hoping for another way to gain his mortality, it also means that they can hope to grow together, even if it isn’t in the sense of growing old.”Unstable and uncertain”. Of course it isn’t finished yet, their future isn’t any more unstable and uncertain than the other open endings. Although there is no certain proof that they will be happy the entire time, it’s the same way there is no certainty in them growing apart like Camille said.
While it didn’t solve their problem, it solved how they dealt with it. And if they can work past that, whose to say that it will immediately cause problems? They can live out their days together and they’re happy together and they will be separated by death, but that doesn’t invalidate that they’re happy together.
While I wish that they did grow old together, they’re already happy despite that. Wessa was handled the same way, and no one can say that Wessa didn’t have their happy ending. I trust Magnus and Alec enough to be that way too, to be as happy and fulfilled.
I agree with you that we all want Cassie to pull another Jessa and include Malec in TDA all solved and happy. I really do understand why people aren’t happy with it and I respect that.
I’m just saying that, to me, Cassie did them justice in the things they needed to work out and although it didn’t solve the problem itself, it solved their growth as a couple in handling it and facing it together, which I think is just as beautiful 🙂
But isn’t that what Magnus always do? Loving each person in different way i mean. The way he loved Camille is different from the way he loved Etta, the way he loved Etta is different from the way he loves Alec etc … I think that sentence Magnus said was mean to say "Alec is entire different from others”, but if it means like what you said, then this sentence is even more pointless …
Don’t get me wrong, I think all the developments in CoHF are necessary for their relationship, I just hate that Cassie left it there. Wessa was happy, and we get to see how happy they are, we don’t get to see Malec’s
I think I get it now. I think we can both agree that we want Cassie to write more about their life together, but i think the difference is: it’s okay for you if she stops there, but for us – the one who unhappy with the ending – it’s not okay, we want much more (you can say that we’re greedy people).
And I don’t want she write about them in TDA, i truly don’t. Because it makes me feel like she do that so we have to read TDA! Advertising-wise it’s a good move yes, but i’m so tired of her keep using old characters to make people read her new works. I want her to give Malec a rest jfc they have been through enough just give them a happily ever after ending goddamnit. I want her to finish it once & for all in CoHF or maybe TBC. Or better, give them their own book because they are damn well deserved to be a main character other than background characters of someone else’ story!
You know, I would not have guessed that
Magnus Bane represents the fandom’s feelings about the “biggest” plot twist in CoHF
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